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March 07, 2006

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Abalieno

FIRST!!!

Then why those "Second Life", "A tale in the desert" and "Puzzle Pirates" aren't extremely successful since they offer that unique approach that everyone is supposed to wait?

I know I don't like them. And, still, I'd like to see different games that are able to push the boundaries.

uofitorn

If you like Raph so much why don't you just marry him?

Raph

Heh, yeah, it does sound a bit like what I've been advocating for a while. Either the world is catching up to me, or whatever I have is catching.

I have actually pitched M.U.L.E. Online more than once. Alas, it never gets very far.

BTW, many (most?) of the games you list are actually Korean. And you may want to read my recent post about China, it ties in to your stuff about churning out games quickly. And you need to read Darniaq's latest post too.

Cosmik

Abalieno said:

"Then why those "Second Life", "A tale in the desert" and "Puzzle Pirates" aren't extremely successful since they offer that unique approach that everyone is supposed to wait?"

Firstly, I don't believe I said that everyone will want alternative virtual worlds. However, there is a market for them.

Secondly, without sitting behind the CEO's desk of the respective companies, I submit a number of possible reasons. Lack of the desirable amount of marketing needed to grab consumers? Although catering to the non-fantasy/non-level/etc field, specifc game mechanics that are used are not optimal? Perhaps even the virtual world itself is missing an allure - that certain je nas sais quoi.

The above 3 games all started out quite small - in both scope and resources - compared to the top MMOs today. I'd say they have been quite successful and proven their worth. Yet, there is still alot of market room for alternative virtual worlds in general to grow into.

Besides, it's not much fun to write about an untapped market if in fact it has been tapped, now is it?

Edit: After my trip, I have much reading to catch up on. I'll have a look, thanks Raph.

Abalieno

Besides, it's not much fun to write about an untapped market if in fact it has been tapped, now is it?

Or maybe because there's a reason why it is left untapped.

Patrick McKenzie

Ragnarok is a Korean game which was localized to Japan, not a Japanese game. The lion's share of the Japanese MMORPG market, in terms of number of games if not subscribers, comes that way.

There is also a devoted cult-like following to UO. You can still find it on the shelves of those few video game stores that sell PC games. My local sushi chef brags about how he GMed cooking on fish steaks.

Darniaq

How is it all of a sudden so many of us are coming to the same conclusion?

http://www.darniaq.com/phpNews/news.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=207

Is this some sort of non-directed yet-still-coincident wisdom of a crowd? :)

Michael

As Darniaq says, I've been talking about this too.

I guess Raph might have had some say on this once or twice before too.

I *guess*. :)

Paul Canniff

We tried to get a Cthulu-themed game doing using the Delta Green IP, but after a few runs a that, we ended up with a period pirate piece set in 1720 instead. Head to burningsea.com to visit & kibitz. We're expecting a very large Asian market, partly because of PVP and partly because there is also a rich Asian pirate heritage to mine.

I wonder how well an "old west" game would do, given Hollywood and Italian / Spanish produced westerns were once global but probably not familiar to the younger folks. E.g. anybody under 30.

unbeliever

How was Shinjuku or Roppomgi?

Lived near a year in Shinagawa myself, all I can say is Tokyo is a Schizophrenic and possible the best place in the world (yes am a tokyo fanboi). Melbourne sucks compared

Cosmik

Patrick McKenzie said:

"Ragnarok is a Korean game which was localized to Japan, not a Japanese game. The lion's share of the Japanese MMORPG market, in terms of number of games if not subscribers, comes that way."

Yeah, I know. As I said, it is a list of Japanese MMOs AND Asian MMOs available in Japan.

As an aside, Ragnarok Online is owned by a Japanese based company after buying a 52.4% share last year.

Unbeliever said:

"How was Shinjuku or Roppomgi?"

Shinjuku was awesome. I was staying in Ebisu, so I was close to Shinagawa as well (and did go there). Whereabouts in Melbourne are you (if I haven't asked)?

unbeliever

"Whereabouts in Melbourne are you?"

So you can send people to beat me up?

Word bam smack in the CBD, live 20 min out in Glen Iris, socialize in Chapel street.

Send your minions, mine will retaliate!

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